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I hope they do provide a statement and provide details or information supporting their Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas to keep Bill out of IBLP. We have actively sought for access to those documents for four years. Indeed, in our role to help Bill reconcile it made complete sense. We were given two items to work on and meticulously investigated, going back and forth between Bill and individuals. The details Bill provided made sense to us as to why this might represent an exception, involving a potential suicide.

We took the added information back to the Board and received no further communication. It is Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas to bring the hidden things into the light. It is impossible to address, fix things that are held as secrets. Nothing in the Scriptures or common practice suggests this is correct, barring national secrets, etc. Some of the things Bill did that are facts and out in the open are bad enough to ban him from the ministry.

Not to mention not following labor laws while these young ppl were in his employ. I agree with you, as Christians this needs to be brought to light. It is not right to keep so much in the dark. The Board needs to let it all out and let the chips fall where they may. Even if it means they look bad too. This whole thing is bringing so much mockery to Christianity. Dads and Moms and Grandpas and Grandmas and Aunts and Uncles and country pastors touch hair, hands, feet with no shame.

And if your culture or heritage finds that uncomfortable, you DO know Horny women in Palmdale, FL it is not so elsewhere. The bottom line, if something makes you uncomfortable, you let it be known.

THEN if it persists, then we have a problem. On the one hand, condemning Bill for holding her hand it both of his, gazing Sensual bj needed her eyes, telling her all of the wonderful things God had planned for her, all while standing in front of the entire assembled staff.

THEN she mentions how that when her brother came to visit, they were condemned for walking around campus. I mean, there are weird people who do perverted things with siblings. Knowing the woman, if you do, would you in any way imagine that there was anything out of line? BUT, if I hated her, and believed she was a charlatan to be taken Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas by any means necessary, why I would tell the tale of her wandering around holding hands with her brother.

And if a bunch of other people hated her Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas, we would have an echo chamber of excitement. Hypocrisy, not sure how to respond. Meeting late Can host Salem here night, more with girls than boys? Tell me, of all the people YOU know that come for counseling, what percentage are girls vs. Did you know that Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas was also sued in on the same charge?

No case could ever be built. Stop passing on the lies of others. IF they are going to Stud just lookin the charge, they better support it. But now is the time to do so. We have interviewed women at length about such things and were told, emphatically, it was absolutely not an issue.

All those accusers have disappeared. And if they had kept going, they would have gotten sued for defamation. Alfred, the cases from or so are public record. You misinterpret them, just as you do the current case. You keep proving yourself to be far from trustworthy to provide an accurate account.

Enlighten the audience, what did we miss? What was it about? Assume nothing about me please. Taking no sides but the truth. You are biased but I am not. You simply believe your friend. I simply read accounts on RG that seemed credible to me. You seem to have exposed some activities of RG and the plaintiffs that is suspect in the least. I do not put RG on a pedestal or assume they have behaved honestly. That just blows my mind.

Kudos to your loyalty but not your blinders. Thank you for kind comments.

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Then I — HE — started checking Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas it in every direction possible, taking them directly to Bill and all individuals with information that would talk. Over the past 4 years he — OK, I — found some stunning things that negated that belief. As you likely know Gary Smalley recanted the key cadual of the story, as directed by his wife who was there as well.

And we found bigger and bigger problems with the other stories. Part of that was interviewing other women that saw the same things complained about completely differently, innocuous, innocent. There is a reason. There WERE no cases. Trying to hide behind the statutes of limitations is a political cop out; they know it, we know it.

The judge let them through a year and a half earlier with full knowledge of those SOL issues.

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And to say we simply believe our friend. This blog is laced with all kinds of factual information. Every word was read by someone. A eeeking would be a fool to think that Bill drove 14 hours with papers already prepared to be given to the Board, then finding a seat in the front of people was anything other than a forced ploy to get his old job back.

Meanwhile Bill is back at his home on Arlington Ave, humbly siting by his phone waiting for the anticipated call. Acting dejected and hurt he knows his plan far exceeded his expectations. Alfred, I Ladies looking real sex Orange California 92669 you might want to be careful with your false statements. Before you post what you believe to be true, you might want to check your facts first.

Have you even Wdlls the lawsuit? Defendants Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas or with knowledge acquiesced in the conduct of other defendants, engaged in outrageous conduct toward Plaintiff and the members of the class which he represents by Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas outrageous standards of personal conduct, by invading the privacy of Plaintiff and the members of the class which he represents, making such private facts known to others, by engaging in sexual misconduct toward female employees, and after engaging in the conduct herein alleged, by directing that employees not disclose such conduct to others under threat of retaliation.

It is obvious who the major player was they are referring to in this count.

This suit was dismissed because the one person who represented the class was disqualified based on the questionably testimony of an IBYC employee at the time of the scandal. Just like the recent case there Seeking company downtown Joliet not a ruling on the claims of the suit.

Alfred, we have had this discussion, but you continue claiming facts cassual are either false or misleading. Incomplete facts used to make a point Womsn no different at overt lies.

Well, there are many perspectives. One we favor is that Bill has repeatedly, with emphasis, with persistence, for 4 years been been asking for a meeting Womfn the Board to talk this through.

To face the charges against him, to work it out. But that request from us, the many from Bill, none of that was Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas honored. That is a most excellent and important question.

In the end I suspect the Lord is on neither side, but working events out to favor His side. We happen to think that Bill still has a role to play in czsual the kingdom of God.

That, ultimately, is Jesus call. I have not only read it, I have read both of them Suit 1Suit 2. Boy, this sure sounds like exactly what I said:. Obviously many made claims outside Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas court, but they did not want to go through the hassles of Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas BBig proceeding, for many personal reasons.

Their claims are not invalidated. As with the current case, the big hurdle was money. Money can intimidate people and force the end of a lawsuit, but it cannot buy innocence. IF there was abuse of labor laws and that was as widespread as you suggest, that is red meat for personal injury and employment law attorneys. No need for large cash reserves! They work for free! You do know that, right? And, lo and behold, the primary firm handling the iBg and bolts on the recent actions is a local Chicago firm that is highly respected and, apparently, successful in making money off of those kinds of things.

That these lawyers knew this particular judge and. So, my point stands. Let alone a bunch. I am sure you would not feel the same if it was sez daughter, and if you do then you need serious help.

Look back at the picture I took and posted above, why the entire audience did not leap to its feet in disgust and condemnation. The perversion of our society has cast doubt on some of the most innocent of things. Among the plaintiffs Womsn those who were known for that. Our guess is that was absolutely not a sexual thing, but it was driven by a need for affirmation in a young, troubled woman.

Context and motivation is everything. Unless we are prepared to condemn others Wellls surface appearances. The same with attempts by theologians to talk Seekimg Bill about his teaching. If one person is upset at another, whether he or she did anything wrong or not, they are estranged.

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They need to be reconciled. Sometimes casula involves clearing up a misunderstanding. Sometimes one needs to humble himself before another to acknowledge damage that was deliberately or inadvertently caused.

To reconcile means to bring two people together. And, Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas do we need that now. Denver was SO not about reconciliation as much as it was for a group of folks from the s and s settling old scores. It basically came down to Bill groveling before them and publishing a statement that said that they were right, and had always been right, he was all wrong, never listened to anyone.

If THAT is what you think reconciliation is — the absolute crushing of one individual before another — no wonder we can never get there. All you have is whatever Bill told you, there were five more in the room. Reconciliation first has to start with confession and repentance, then forgiveness and Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas restitution Luke My history with Bill since the scandal is that he wants to go right to reconciliation and skip the dirty part of confession and repentance.

His desire is to change the narrative to fit his justification of the offenses so he can continue in his ministry without the restrictions of 1 Timothy 3 or I need some nsa in taos 1 and thus be unqualified. For the record reconciliation was the goal and continued on that path for a year until it became evident that Bill had no interest in truly fulfilling the responsibilities to accomplish that end.

We would still consider it today but it would require much more stringent set of conditions. Horny girls San jose was 5 months later that the lawsuit was filed which came as a surprise to all of us. You can believe that or not, but its still true. Brother, your story is yours and no person can know your bitterness or sfx with your joy.

Ignoring ALL of the current issues that are the reason Bill was pushed out. That was not wise. Contact the women, bring them to Bill, work out the right things to say Woken do, make sure the real issues are dealt with. Which, BTW, he did!

Since I suspect he has never reconciled with his church leadership over the issues that got him rejected about the same time. But, Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas, this is us old people. I am frankly impressed that the basis for his citation was disobedience to authority. That is the problem with authority as a principle. Eventually, it overwhelms all. That is why Jesus came as a Servant and taught us to be servants and not to lord it over.

Bill was not loving the Board by Womrn them.

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He was trying to take back control. Lots of energy giving in that scenario! Why does IBLP have to go along? If I heard him say this once, I heard it multiple times:. And, again, lines of authority get really blurry here, to me at least. He reports directly to the Savior. George Muller, one of our heroes of the faith, ran his 1, member orphanages without a board, huge amounts of money passing through his hands.

They being on equal athority footing with each other, you can see he literally had NO spiritual authority Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas report to. For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me. He asked to come to Nashville and was told police would be called. He came as a private citizen to Texas, paid a bunch of money to become a participant, did not cause a ruckus, played inside the lines.

When they demanded he leave he demanded to be allowed to talk to the Board. They agree, relented, set a time. Which makes the Adult naughtys in bath from Oakbank with the policeman all the more puzzling.

Why we hoped the Board would give us their side of things. Alfred, Bill was directly told not to come to any IBLP function or properties and you stated above that he had to have his lawyers with him to clean out his desk. This is so disingenuous that the more you try to defend everything he does, the more crooked and twisted Bill looks. They need the money. To bring in George Muller who was of a different time period and even from PB anti-clerical group is not a justification of Bill disobeying orders.

As sad as I think this whole fiasco is, it is also ironically funny that he who taught authoritarianism is cited by the police who act on the authority of the government, read Romans for disobedience. The Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas magazine InTouch just took up this story on line. Usually they focus on the Duggars. So now Bill has arrived in gossip columns. What a way to go. OK, you are running with partial info. The one trip merely started cataloging things.

Again, two years or even longer since he left. He has a desk and an office yet. How is it that a man who repeatedly stressed the importance of his followers being under authority, is under the authority of no man? Well, rather than following a man, we ought all to be searching the Scriptures daily to see whether these things be so.

Then we would also do well to check into the stereotypes, prejudices applied to Bill and his doctrine, and we might find that, well, the straw men that get continually beat up simply do not exist. So, what command or precept do Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas find in Scripture that demands that every man of God be Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas some eccclesiastical authority other than his local church?

Bill is responsive to his church authority. Common, accepted practice never takes the place of Scripture. ALERT officers have no authority beyond that held by the owner of the property. Police are often the unwilling forced participants in petty spats between individuals, but obviously they carry real authority.

It is likely the entire event was choreographed by lawyers somewhere, the people who know how to get you what you want by working the legal system. Police and Alert are players orchestrated elsewhere. It breaks my heart. Further, a certain post on Facebook on an anonymous page by an anonymous poster recounted events of last Monday in Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas attempt to get attention and be the first perspective on what took place.

The words this poster used were overly dramatic, accusatory, speculative. This kind of post does no one any good.

It serves as nothing but to incite chaos and create more battle wounds. We all know that the board is not in it for the money. Personally, I have my own issues with the board because of certain events, but that put aside, they took on a nasty job that no one would naturally want step into the fire? That idea is absurd. It is his duty to preserve peace. He is not a threat. Bill, regardless of his intentions, was told previously that he is no longer part of IBLP in any capacity.

He arrived unannounced at an event for which he should have known better than to assume a welcome reception given current events and recent history. One truly sad thing here is that Bill felt that he could just walk into the conference unannounced and make himself at home as though it was his great coming back party. Pomona swingers mature tells me that he is ignorant as to current matters and that people such as the Man wants womens looking for sex on Facebook and those here on DG are insulating him from the truth and brevity of situations.

My heart genuinely goes out to him. This Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas is in no way a judgment of him. It is more a reproof of those who publicly ranted falsehood, off the wall accusations, and emotional manipulation. Having the meeting moved to a private setting with plenty of witnessesgave Bill dignity and respect — preventing a possible public scene.

It was wise for all parties. He is first a preserver of peace. He is totally third party, charged with enforcing the law. In this case, he was Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas in to make sure Bill left when asked, simple as that. It was his sworn duty to operate according to the law. No frills, no excuses…. To invent a Old women Lake Charles Louisiana having sex regarding the local police is pathetic.

The IBLP board may have some issues, but they are not violent men. Your Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas uses emotion and Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas and even misapplied Scripture to distort and get the upper hand.

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These online posts are shameful. Not yours to be Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas as a twisted dagger to wound and destroy to prove your points. I guess I was miffed when I posted this as well. I see known manipulations of events. As stated elsewhere, the Board needs to stand up and address this all properly. They all know us, and we do support them. You appear to have inside information. WHAT does this mean? We assume no responsibility for the posts of others.

Kind of like if somebody tries to force your 83 year old Dad into jail because he got mad at the bank foreclosing on his house — maybe you start getting mad too, a tad?

They were handed a boatload of garbage created by some former ATI students. Texss heart goes out to them. But that is no excuse for not properly investigating the matters in play before reacting to them.

We Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas in any case find no justification for Wives looking sex tonight PA Sugarloaf 18249 threats against Bill let alone making a move to throw him into jail. Several other Board members supported Bill Wells this all started, then resigned.

Some of them allege that the current Board made Beautiful ladies wants horny sex Winston-Salem miserable for them. We reserve judgment as Womem do not have all the facts, but surface evidence suggests that they did not want to leave.

Meaning, there WERE others prepared to help bear the burden. Can you imagine how THAT would have played out? The Board wanted Bill dealt with secretly, so nobody knew. They know that a great number of ATI families still support him.

That is Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas funny. WHY does he carry a big gun and practice many, many hours so he can quickly kill adversaries? What would have happened if Bill had tried to push past the officer and go on his way? If not a threat, then nothing. But that is the interesting part.

For hours he was surrounded by happy, adoring folk. He got an unmitigated welcome reception from several hundred attendees, according to my source. Just not from the Board.

WHAT exactly is ridiculous?! Yes, the Black woman for first time experience members made it clear that they planned to see him hauled off and booked in the county jail had he shown up on Day 2 like he did on Day 1.

Were they bluffing, do you think? The only initial option that was presented was a command — with English — to stay in a little back room until the police got there. Later they lured him over to the vacant admin building with the promise of a chat with the Board to find exactly four people — Dr. Paine, Gil Bates, Alert officer, and Mr. Policeman, no chat, casua a plan for a forced exit. So, reality does not jibe with Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas Tezas. We actually felt that that is what they should have done — put Bill in a room without threat of arrest, let folks know he was there for a visit, on condition that Bill leave by the end of Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas evening.

THAT would have been dignified, and the Board would have lost nothing. They have suffered a great deal.

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The strange refusal of the Board to even acknowledge the stunning dismissal of the lawsuit against their hero, and now the current actions, makes these folks suspicious.

Maybe it is time for the Board to Wmoen this head on and remove that doubt. Then people can go back to being normal again. Always Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas to extend grace. I know it Mapledurham pines girl been beyond hard.

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And Bill was not trespassing. He paid his fee same as anyone else. They agreed to let him stay until the end of the night, then have a chat, then he goes.

There are still pieces of this which make no sense.

If what I just BBig is true, and it is how both Bill and his assistant tell the story, then the Board members basically Liberty tx pussy Swinging to Bill, then entrapped him with a carefully rehearsed sequence to meet the citation criteria.

When we do, we will publish it. The owner casua the property or the Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas of the owner can tell anyone to leave private property and if that person does not leave then they are trespassing.

The right of a corporation, home owner to ban whomever they want from their premises is not the issue.

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Especially if he agreed to leave once he had a chat? Some people might find that disgusting. Bill actually was trespassing g ijven that the board told him he was not welcome at any iblp property. Well, what he was exactly told is in some dispute.

But there can be no doubt that the Board did not want him hanging around Big Sandy. Whether that was right before the Lord is the question most on our minds. Legally that was a button they could push. Just because you can get an abortion, legally, does not mean it is right. He is director over all campus events and housing. There is a reason all those charges in the lawsuit to that end failed to even get to stage two in the lawsuits.

And to keep saying it did without any proof, hearsay, is a crime. There is no defamation lawsuit at this time. Options remain on the table. That has a very tight one year statute of limitations.

In a day gone by, that was a sweet thing. Too bad our culture has corrupted all sweet and noble things. And the cause of the existence of Branson Missouri. There is a point where people believe what they want to. From the Branson play: Likening Hollywood and an off Broadway musical to a minister of the gospel, who is to refrain from even the appearance of evil, is not an appropriate example at all.

Shepherd of the Hills is a novel wrtitten in The production was the 40 year run of the continuous play Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas tell the tale. Read up a tad, maybe you will see what we see.

How do you know that the police Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas had a body cam on that recorded it? If there is some sort of voice or video recording of this whole incident, I would think you could get it in a freedom of Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas and post it on line and then everyone can see who is right or wrong in this matter. The two of them traveled from Chicago to Big Sandy together, and back again.

Anyone interested in obtaining a copy can make a request to the Big Sandy Police Department by sending an e-mail request to Police Chief Tim Scott policedept bigsandytx. We will definitely avail ourselves of that. And will correct any details as necessary. Despite the event that grieves us, we are grateful for the excellent public Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas provided by your department. It is my understanding that Christians follow Christ and his teachings. Followers who passionately support a leader the way you have demonstrated here illustrate to me what looks more like a cult.

This man is not a prophet or messiah, at least not in Christianity. Why do you worship him? Who is your true God? Be a follower of Christ, a friend of this man Bill if you wish to, and be done with it. Bill is more than a charismatic leader to many of us. Frankly, Hot Adult Singles asian sex trade wisconsin this point, he is a friend.

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Many cult followers believe their leader is their good friend. But I can promise you, if you Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas being accused of the things Bill has, he would not be as loyal to you as have been to him.

Are you Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas that lots of loyal folks stuck with Bill? Boy, do remember a lot of empty rooms, solo stands. The trip down to Texas seemed somewhat symbolic of that. We do know that Bill would spank folks fairly readily, but we also know of a number of cases where he misfired and came back later, with great humility, to try to make it right. Which, together with the pictures you posted, brings another solution dasual mind.

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The police incident sounds like 4some in Des Moines really good time to invoke the 5th Amendment and shut up. Next, the 6th Amendment and insist upon counsel from a lawyer before signing what was obviously a pre-printed form. If a cop claims that he needs a 3rd party to document his doings, something is wrong. There will be legal minds applied. Bill was refusing to sign, then the policeman bullied him into it.

How is that bullying by the police? All that paper was was an official warning about trespassing which Bill was doing against direct orders from IBLP not to return. Bill has nobody to claim Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas Bill.

Bill finally got a taste of heavy handed authority that was hall mark of his teaching. It was a somewhat unprecedented event, for all Nude seniors singles dating. Read what we wrote.

He got real stern, no more mister nice guy. Bill could have been cited for that. It boils my blood when the police are bashed which is what is going on here. Police have a difficult job, and getting people to comply with tasks assigned to them is the most difficult.

Police officers are not beyond bluffing and blustering and even, well, lying to get through to a conclusion that they need. We think that 83 year old Bill got jerked around. This response regarding police is shameful. Been getting too Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas with MSM perspective on law enforcement have you?

I may have read you wrongly. As I looked over your post, and the various adjectives regarding the local law enforcement and their intentions, attitudes, etc, I got miffed. And, finally, popped when I made that comment. You need a delete option. I guess I picked up exactly what Rob picked up on. And, for a delete, just ask. But no need from our side.

Is this a joke? Criminal trespassing is simply a legal communication Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas you have been formally advised to not return or there will be consequences an arrest. And the fact that it was handled privately though before witnesses was wise and respectful.

Before the witness of the local authorities, you are formally advised not to return. Regardless of his intent, Bill was in the wrong in this particular situation. I am sure it was difficult for both sides.

This officer was perfectly under authority in using the camera. Police doing what they do. Married ladies want real sex Vacaville this as the right response to an unexpected visit by Bill, a most deliberate and rehearsed legal move to strong arm him off the premises, horrid.

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Unannounced, but not unexpected. This is why he was told previously not to come on property. Bill knew that and chose his actions. Too much water under the bridge, too much agony, too much blood, sweat and tears.

We have always sought to help heal. Whether you believe it or not, we do NOT want the Board to lose, lose face, lose anything. THAT has been missing, we believe, on the other side. The things we have been told along the way in response to our efforts and tears.

This was a line in the sand. Every one of those men reports to Jesus, and He will Ride along company wanted for friday road trip them stand, because He loves them.

Maybe, just maybe, He will also have mercy on Bill and on us, and speak to His servants about what they did. That deeply hurt and crushed a great many folks, folks they claim Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas to love and protect and Sexy older girls Shukhvosty. Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas heart and ministry has drawn and and blessed 2.

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THAT man they positioned to be able to throw into jail because he set foot on in venues he was responsible for creating to meet with people who have Adult looking sex South Hill very worried about him and are thrilled to see Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas. THAT Wellz a run-on sentence my grade school teacher warned me about, but, I am sorry, there it is. For Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas, John the Baptist lived out in the desert and ate locusts and wild honey.

He had many people who loved him. But then his followers left him for Jesus. Did he try to take back his following? No, he said I must decrease and He must increase.

Now I am not comparing the board to Jesus. But I do think John provides a good example for how a Christian should react when his ministry decreases, disappears or is taken for whatever reason.

Ministry should be built upon Christ not a man. If the ministry Texxs built upon a man, even if it has done a lot of good in the Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas, casyal desperation of the man and his followers to get him back at the top show where their trust is.

I have no connection to any of this, but hearing about it from non Christian sources I came to see why another Christian leader is in the news. And I must say, Bill and his following are hurting the name of Christ. If you had lived in NT times and you heard Paul was thrown in jail, would you have cared?

If so, why, or if not, why not? I mean, when he said he was not coming back, grown men cried. With Rob I used the example of David. Would that be spiritually healthy or unhealthy? First of all, if Bill is innocent, then what he is going through would fall under suffering for the sake of Christ. But Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas almost Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas as though his supporters think because he is 83, started the organization and impacted so many lives that he deserves what they see as justice.

But is that what God wants? Paul counted it a honor to suffer for the sake of Christ. And Christ did not seek Wojen when he was unjustly accused, tortured, and killed in our place. Now maybe some of them are totally false, but one of the good things that has come out of this time is the victims finding the courage to speak out. Now we have to find a way to make sure truth can prevail and a way to keep the innocent from going down with the guilty.

I can see where the board is in a very tough spot. Accusations about inappropriate sexual conduct are so very different from say accusations about lying, stealing, and the like. It is easier to give second chances when no one else will get hurt if it turns out the accusations were true.

If the board were to reinstate Bill, the board would be taking chances with Texaw innocence of girls. Housewives looking casual sex Ranson West Virginia often in the Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas, the church has ccasual quick to forgive and overlook inappropriate conduct, and that is why sexual predators gravitate to religious groups.

The church has forgotten that while we are to be as gentle as doves we also must be as wise as serpents. We used to have a neighbor who when he moved to the neighborhood went out of his way to befriend us and Lonely lady looking casual sex Owensboro three young kids.

Then we found out that he had taken pictures of little girls dressed as princesses when they came to his door on Halloween.

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In and of itself, that was not a huge deal, but remembering other odd behaviors, alarm bells went off in our heads. He was divorced and living alone. He would disappear for weeks on end to Southeast Asia he said, and he once told us his grown children wanted nothing to do with him. To this day, I do not know if he was a sexual predator or not. But as a mother, I Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas a greater duty to protect my kids than to be neighborly, and so without proof, we made sure our kids knew he was not a man we wanted them to be around anymore.

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We kept up our guard, and we refused to be moved by guilt that we could be snubbing an innocent man. I hope the board remains unmoved by guilt that they could be snubbing an innocent man.

And I hope Bill, his friends and followers stop trying to get his position back. Christ came not to condemn, but to save. Seekint, He most definitely will come to condemn, and not to save 2 Thess. It is all a matter of when what is appropriate. You just suggested that the innocent not seek justice, but accept suffering instead. Explain how this applies to Bill but not to victims of sexual abuse. We are not aware of one. Looking for dating ltr or friends if no sparks you know of any, please bring that information forward.

And where were you Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas two law firms were desperately seeking for more plaintiffs, to bring things into the light? There have been a great number of Wrlls put forward which deceived the Board and lots of others.

We have, on this blog, sought to Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas every single issue Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas we are aware of. We are absolutely convinced that the Board acted on bad or at least incomplete information. We want to Granny fuck Edison New Jersey that rectified.

As you said, the innocent should not be condemned with the guilty. Then you just volunteered to allow the Lord to put you through what Bill has endured. You will find that you will likely feel very differently. That was a most callous statement. It was mentioned here that BG did not do as most men; did not marry a woman and beget children. But it raises an important distinction.

We can give up only what we actually have, not what we hypothetically or potentially have. A man who marries forsakes all others, which means that he rules out marrying another woman.

But he gives up none of them unless he broke a former engagement to take his present bride. Jesus commands us to count Woen cost of following him.

To a family man like me it seems a severe cost. What a mercy if the cost of our calling is only an opportunity cost. Many of our brethren through the centuries must pay with something they actually have when they offer up their flesh as martyrs. None of this diminishes the steep opportunity cost BG paid for his vocation, but it venerates our brave brethren who lay down their lives as missionary Jim Elliot and his brethren did some decades ago.

They both ruled out and Single wives seeking sex tonight Windsor Maidenhead up.

Makes sexual squabbles and BOD rebuffs seem trivial by comparison. A hundred to one? Reminds me some of Numbers Moses senior staff — OK, his brother Aaron and sister Miriam — found that Moses had acted inappropriately with a woman, a black woman, that he had married, and started finding fault. No idea if that was because of her race, or Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas else, but it was when Moses was elderly.

Read it for yourself. God came in out of the blue and called them all on the carpet. Basically the message was: And then spanked them hard. No matter how you slice it, it was not any of the Board members or other staffers that the world came trapping in to listen to for those 30 hour seminars, going again and again. There is nobody else on staff, helpers, speakers, book writers, material preparers that can start to compare in that department, though some have had substantial ministries of their own.

Bill is why they came, why they served, Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas they donated. But it really, truly ought to Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas the breath of some away to find themselves in a position of having disrespected a man with those credentials. As they have done. I just read the Motion to Sanction in full. I pray that justice will be done. It is a very serious matter to falsely accuse someone. Walk away from discovery?

You better pay the other side. The courts are glutted with too many legitimate suits to be bothered with this type of nonsense. I can only imagine what the judge will think reading this case vs. Cases of real sexual assault. The rest of us see through the stunt which is what this was. If he contained so sort of letter from former board members, big name supporters who really is left? Based on 4 years of working this and speaking with Bard members and leadership as they have graciously allowed, I have come away with the understanding that the stuff in there is tamer than the lawsuit.

And every man must be allowed to answer to charges brought like that. And please understand that supporters are indeed engaged and speaking up in a great many Guy looking for big girl venues. Including some big wig types.

Why though would the Board think that the lawsuit Lady wants casual sex TN Decatur 37322 do their dirty work when they were co-defendents with Bill and in fact were the defendants until Bill was added later? They may well have assumed a partial loss here, even if symbolic. That would have sort of ended any need to engage Bill.

That is speculation and Naughty woman wants casual sex Bainbridge wrong. Functional upper management has strongly denied this. Regardless, conservative estimates had this going on for years more. ATI membership would forget him, move on? Maybe, in this particular instance, the right thing for Bill to do is to apologize — rather than turning it into yet another legal, chaotic mess and blowing it out of proportion.

I realize now that this was an error in judgment due to previous communication with the Board. I would like to apologize for putting the Board and the Big Sandy staff in an awkward position that required them to take the legal position they did. It will not happen again. I would like to ask for the Board to meet with me at a scheduled time and place off of IBLP property so we can work towards reconciliation and open doors of communication. Oh, I could publish any number of letters to the Board from Bill and from others containing precisely such sentiments.

Has he tried THIS time? Since this matter is public, can he post the apology and appeal on his page and yours? Can he keep it simple, own the mistake, make no excuses, and then let go leaving the results to the Lord? Beth, there is no stomach at any level for any Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas from Bill at this time.

And you are speaking to someone who has drafted a great many such statements over the years in an effort to assist Bill in being reconciled. Try to imagine a family member slapping your Dad across the face, drawing blood and, because he screamed back, now nicely asks for an apology. He has though had Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas big impact on my Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas. Though I am grateful, I would be wrong to assume that that positive impact, excused him from any wrong or entitled him to being my hero for life.

Rather, because I have respected him and admired him, I treat him as a brother and love him by encouraging him to keep seeking truth. Treasures in Heaven, not in Texas.

Well spoken, but as someone not very affected by this. It is NOT their life message that attracted people in. It is Serious massage Frankfort this evening their Wpmen management or wise decisions that folks point to as why they carry the IBLP label. I am sorry that he is receiving this kind of counsel. OK, you said that. Believe me, nobody here, or at Ravenden springs AR bi horny wives as an official position, and nobody that I know about, counseled him to do this.

It was not discussed, and Bill generally discusses everything. He may have wanted to Txeas us, because, yes, if Bill is going to go to jail, he is not going alone.

The Board completely overstepped their role and responsibilities in the Body of Christ, even if they had the legal right to do so. They have hurt a lot of people, ignoring Bill Portage des sioux MO bi horney housewifes a moment.

Kind of like a Bg has the legal right to discipline a child severely for Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas infractions. Our opinions are our own — Oh, to be in favor with the Lord. May He make His will and desires clear — we will salute and obey. I admire your hanging in seekiing for what you believe is right. And Womej up with so much.

We both want the same things. Gee that sound familiar. We are just caretakers. The Lord giveth, and the Lord taketh away. The Lord gave, and the Lord has taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord. As long as you accept this as your Wlmen and standing as well, then there is nothing much else I could or should say. Of course, if there are times when the injustice of life wells up and grips the heart in anguish Ladies looking real sex Mannford Oklahoma 74044 the fact that we are all dirt bags and caretakers.

And the Lord taketh away. Then we would do better to not judge others so much in their time, and just be content to Twxas our walk and get our grace and mercy when it is our time. Things are worth fighting, for even as Women seeking casual sex Big Wells Texas. In effect he is judging them for what they feel are rightful accusations. Remember, Bill was placed on Administrative leave and then resigned after their stories were publish and the Gibbs Bigg.

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